This Stays Between Us

Just Between Us… Katy Perry’s Giant Poop, Blake Lively’s PR Spiral & Fake Crimes at Walmart

• Riss & Chrys • Season 1 • Episode 19

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We dive into the scandalous side of pop culture and explore bizarre internet mysteries that have captured attention online.

• Katie Perry's toilet-themed performance and space debacle highlighting her questionable creative decisions
• Blake Lively's PR crisis and how her attempts to redirect criticism have backfired
• Why "laying low" might be the best strategy for celebrities facing public criticism 
• The Caroline Miller Walmart incident where security footage disproved claims about attempted child abduction
• False accusations and their damaging impact on innocent people trying to help others
• The ethical dilemmas presented in Netflix's medical drama "Pulse" regarding workplace relationships
• The mysterious "Menugate" phenomenon about a man living in an apparently empty apartment complex
• A TikTok mystery involving a woman who found a suspicious rolled-up rug during fence installation

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Spill the tea, sip the secrets, and shut the hell up about it. And don't forget, the stays between us.


Riss:

About this week. Welcome to another episode of this Stays Between Us, where we roast what's trending, Okay, the easiest thing to roast right now. I think, well, there's too much low-hanging fruit, you know? Yeah, We've got Katy Perry on one hand and we have Blake.

Chrys:

Lively on the other. I know what is the katie perry thing. I like I literally was scrolling through tiktok and I saw this thing of like a giant toilet in a doo-doo just bopping and I was like what the hell is that I might be mistaken, but I'm like 90 confident.

Riss:

The song that she's singing with that whole production is um california girls and I'm like how no one else poops. What is it like? Hot girls, bowel syndrome, like what is the connection? I don't know. Hot girls have bowel problems.

Chrys:

Yeah, the ibs, I guess I that was weird, I know like I saw the giant doodle and I'm like, is this a kid's show live or something? And I saw katie perry and I'm like what is going on? Like I need to get, I need to like reset my freaking page because this I don't know, no, it was like very cringy and I feel like that it's just.

Riss:

Everybody is talking about it. It's not good that this is coming right after her whole space debacle. Oh yeah, her five minutes in space, yeah, just so funny. She's like flying through the crowd like attached to like. Anyway, just like does not look good.

Chrys:

I mean, if I had the money, I'd be flying through the crowd too. But like the dancing was really bad, it's like was really bad. It's like Like very bad and like her leg is up. It's like what is this? Like you didn't hire anybody. Like we did some budget cuts. You were high, you were like you spent all the money on space and it's so wild to me to have like so much money that you're just like, yeah, I'm gonna go to space, and then I'm gonna dance next to a doo-doo on tuesday, like that's

Riss:

my week yeah, looking at her like google calendar must be the wildest experience. Space on monday, dance with my dump here, dance in a toilet. Dance like a crazy auntie there.

Chrys:

Like maybe flash my cooch to the crowd.

Riss:

Like yeah, katie perry, she's not having a good time.

Chrys:

Her pr team needs just hot and she's double time yeah people are not like a really cheesy reference to her first song, hot in your coat. Okay, you did get it.

Riss:

It was just really bad I was like I liked it ain't bad yeah, she's crazy um, but then we have. We have her low-hanging fruit sister over here, which is blake lively yeah that that award made no sense right like and I feel like what is whatever happened to just lane low.

Chrys:

You know, like I haven't always necessarily disliked her, but like she just keeps like digging herself, like just stay home for a few months and then they're gonna move on.

Riss:

I, I think you just said something very wise. Laying low is very underrated, like you guys don't have to be in the center of attention like at all times. Just like yeah, just just for your own like sake, just just step away for a little bit. You're getting wrecked.

Chrys:

Yeah, out there especially during a time where people are so hungry to have more things to criticize you for, even if she does come out and do good things, like it's going to be like dissected, so like just lay low like they're gonna move on. They always move on.

Riss:

Yeah, it's, no, it's the whole. Like did you listen to her speech? The bits and pieces?

Chrys:

of it. Yeah, it was very rehearsed. It was kind of painful, yeah. Well, like it was not very like, like you're an actress Act At least like, if you don't mean what you're saying, at least like it just seemed very like dry.

Riss:

Yeah, and she's taking her the thing that I think like did not land well with most people is that she's taking her mom's story and like telling it to try and get good, like good grace from people. Yeah, you know, but it's like this is your mom's story and like you're taking it and you're trying to use it it's like it's a very it's done in like bad taste.

Riss:

Yeah, it's like a traumatic story which, true or not, like it's not yours to tell, and especially when it's like very blatant that it's an attempt to be seen in her reputation.

Chrys:

Like yeah yeah, I like I think with permission, there's nothing wrong with amplifying other people's voices, like if her mom was okay with it. I think that part is fine, I think it's just the timing sucks right. Like why didn't she share that story if she had permission and her mom was okay with it during the press for the movie? Like that would have made sense, that would have been appropriate. But we were being playing like then and now we're trying to take the criticism and shift to what we should have been doing. Like I, I get, I don't get it. But like in her head she's probably like okay, they're telling me I should have done this, so I'm gonna do it now. But now it's like you're only doing it because you're being told to, so don't do anything for a little while, just lay low and then like come back and change the conversation to it. She has other movies coming out, change the conversation. Like yeah, it just it she's not gonna fix that.

Riss:

It comes across as very disingenuous yeah, like and calculated like calculated and it's just done in very like poor taste it. Yeah, the easiest thing would be to lay low. Come back if you want to apologize. Apologize, have some sort of yeah, I don't know.

Chrys:

The thing is like if she apologizes, I get it that like she will be held liable for sure in this lawsuit, which she probably should be. But I think to some degree, I think for certain things you can't apologize and it could just not be. Um, I don't know, I guess it always also depends on how she does it right. If she gets on like I don't know the most humble corner of her house, that's probably very nice in like no makeup and gives an apology, I feel like I don't know how well that would go over unless it feels super genuine, which, like it, probably wouldn't. Yeah, so I don't know how well that would vote over. I probably would just lay low. But if you do want to do an apology, maybe say yeah, like I. You know I should have spent more time I. I should have.

Chrys:

If she's saying like Sony was the one that forced me to not talk about you know victims or whatever, let's forget about that, that's irrelevant. Like, even with like your influence, you could have pushed it. If that's the story, if that's really what happened, get on the internet and say like I should have pushed harder for that. I made a mistake there. I recognize that there are victims out there. I was like I approached this in a very ignorant way and I'm committed to never letting this happen again and then like move on. But I think these little things that she's doing, I don't know I also do. I do think she believes she was a victim, even if she wasn't. I think she believes that she was with this whole movie thing. I think she you have to believe it to take it this far. I don't think it doesn't make it true.

Riss:

I don't know, I think she thinks it is like people can put up quite the front.

Chrys:

I really do even if she knows she lied. She's been saying the same story for a while now, even though it's been kind of changing. I think at some point you start believing it right, like she think in her head. I truly believe she thinks she's a victim in all this.

Riss:

The public is too harsh the guy was a jerk in that way. Yes, I think that, like she does think that she's a victim, yeah in the or yeah, that she's being harassed by the public and that people are painting her in a light, that's probably not true, but as far as the lawsuit goes, I think she has to know that. On some level that she fw yeah, that they exaggerated and that it's not fully true, and that, yeah, but that there there's. There are other pieces that they weren't forthright about, yeah.

Riss:

You know, but you know, I feel like our podcast would be the greatest platform for Blake Lively to come. No, no.

Chrys:

Like we're okay, Don't bury us before we even get started.

Riss:

No, I was going to say to come and apologize.

Chrys:

Oh, still no, we're good, she could come on confessions.

Riss:

I have a confession. I lied.

Chrys:

Can you imagine that would be Maybe in like 20 years, when we mean something to? People and then she means less People are less worried about it. So she'd just be like bring it back up.

Riss:

Tag Blake Lively.

Chrys:

Don't tag her. We are good the most like litigious person in the business. We're good, we're okay.

Riss:

People would love to hear her talk her side of the story.

Chrys:

They would roast her to oblivion, like in anybody that wouldn't roast us for giving her a platform. Well, we wouldn't give her a platform, she would give us she put, she put us on the map let's's be real.

Riss:

It would be like we could be impartial.

Chrys:

She is so not sorry. She went on this podcast with like half a follower. Did what? Yeah, I mean sure, blake, let's talk. Have your people call, our people can you imagine that's funny.

Riss:

I mean, um, yeah, wild. But speaking of women, that like embellish stories, yeah which is so upsetting because I feel like we've worked so hard to get to the point of, like, believe women, you know, but then it's like, okay, never mind, don't just believe women. Like maybe we do need to start asking more questions, as blake lively is proving and as, yeah, like other people have proved as well. Do you want to tell, like there's yeah, we can get into it.

Chrys:

Um, I will say, like due process I think is always important, but I think, yeah, this, these stories suck. It's suck for they suck really badly for people that experience real situations and because I feel like I don't know, I feel like for those cases, right, you should be for victims of sa, or like harassment or whatever. They should be, like innocent until proven guilty to you know like they should be. We should probably assume it's true until we find out that it's not in those instances. Yeah, but yeah, there was this.

Riss:

It is like such a hard, it's such a hard thing to balance Because it's like, yeah, you don't know who, like a lot of the time, yeah, I don't know, just knowing who the victim is in the situation.

Chrys:

Yeah, you know, because, like, in this, like the the situation, yeah, you know, because like, and that's like the blake lively for example, like justin baldoni is the victim and yeah, like being, unless there's something we haven't seen, but everything that she claimed has been debunked. So it's like with footage, it's like yeah what are we doing?

Riss:

like his career is taking a hit, for sure he's being yeah, well, I hope he gets back now.

Chrys:

Right with him. Yeah, clearing his name, but still sucks, and I mean this whole thing at the very least, I think he should be financially compensated for his legal fees. Yeah for sure. Yeah, yeah, but I'm not sure who saw this, but it was all over my for for you page at least the story about um caroline miller, um at walmart.

Riss:

She was what you just remembered a name. Oh my gosh, chris never remembers names. I'm bad at that. I'm very proud.

Chrys:

The only reason I did do you want to hear the connection? It makes no sense, but iled, I was trying to Google her name earlier and I typed in Caroline and it showed up as Caroline Forbes from Vampire Diaries, and then Miller is easy to remember. So I was like, oh yeah, Caroline.

Chrys:

That's a smart way to remember names. I need to connect it to something that means to me. Vampire Diaries ruled my life for a few years there. I love it Anyway. Yeah, so she's at Walmart. She's taking like an electric, like electric, that's what it is called. Right, the electric like chair? No.

Riss:

Not the electric chair.

Chrys:

As soon as you said it, I was like nope, that's wrong. What is it? I don't know. Mechanical, it's not. It's not a bowl, I don't know. What is it. What is it? Maybe it is an electrical? Um, I've forgotten all the names now. Uh, it's one step forward, five backwards. Hold on.

Riss:

Um, it's just, it is the wheelie chair and it's like not a wheelchair, but it's Like um Electric chair. No.

Chrys:

Because you're thinking like like death row.

Riss:

Yeah, okay, yeah, my brain went there. You said electric chair, that's where it goes.

Chrys:

Yeah, I googled like electric wheelchair and that's what it is, I think Motorized chair. All right, my dudes, you know what I'm talking about.

Riss:

Okay, the chair, you know whatever not that chair, whatever, I didn't help myself scooter chair.

Chrys:

Scooter chair, sure, that's what we'll reference it as yeah, there you go.

Chrys:

Um, she was on it with her two kids. Uh, I guess she said that she was like she took one just because, like, her kids wanted to ride on one, which some people were already kind of pissed about. Um, that they're only for people who are disabled. I mean, I did use them when I was pregnant. I feel like that's valid, that counts, and I have sciatica, so like sometimes, if my leg is like locked up, I just use this chair, but so like I feel like I I feel like an imposter when I do, though, even when I was fully pregnant, I'm like I probably am just lazy, but it feels like my pelvic bone is about to explode. I count it. Okay, I feel as bad just doing confessions throughout like do.

Chrys:

I need to feel bad about this as a professional.

Riss:

No, thank you, you want social work girl.

Chrys:

Um, anyway, she, yeah, so she was on it and she's like clearly having trouble with it, like in the footage, she's like bumping into everything and which is important, because this guy comes up to her and well, maybe we tell her version first. She said that this guy came up to her and asked her where the again the burp is like halfway my throat of my throat. It's like too much coke zero sorry, I'm like dying just burp, I can't.

Chrys:

It's stuck. It's like it just comes up to like here, just force it, it's like really push it.

Chrys:

I'm worried about what else is going to happen. Whatever It'll go out, whatever. Anyway, she is at Walmart. This guy comes up to her and asks her where the Tylenol is. She says that she points to it and as soon as she points, her two-year-old or however old year old is on her lap. And she said that the man launched at her kid and like tried to grab him and so she grabs her kid and they're like doing a tug-of-war for like 10 seconds, which is a long time if you think about like yeah yeah, that probably sounded bad on the video.

Chrys:

Now that I think about it my arm rubbing on the sofa, whatever, sounded kinky. Anyway, we're gonna keep moving.

Chrys:

So, um, yeah, so like she's going with this guy. Apparently this didn't happen, so it's okay that we're laughing, um, so yeah, and he, I guess she gets the kid back and I supposedly. He said to her oh I was trying to get him off your lap so you could come help me, which makes no sense. If he thought she was disabled, yeah Right, because you would assume she's disabled if she's on the thing she's on, yeah.

Riss:

Not the scooter chair, unless she had mentioned already that she wasn't, or something. She's just driving around like sorry, sorry I'm not supposed to be using this, just playing with my kids maybe, um, yeah, so then this man got arrested.

Chrys:

He, I think he's still in jail and it's been like a month. That's so sad I would be so sad I could not point where you're oh girl, no, josh, is like, let's go camping. I'm like, why would I do that to myself? Like no, like I know I should. I know I should want to, because it's like, let's be adventurous. But like I need my bed, I need my heating pad, I need, like, my fan. I need so many things. I need the right conditions plus my, like, insomnia meds to fall asleep.

Riss:

I don't want to be out in the woods I need like a different source of entertainment every like 10 minutes. You know what am I gonna do in a cell?

Chrys:

I'm constantly trying to avoid like sitting down and like just chilling with my thoughts. I'm just trying to stay busy. That would be hard props to people that do it.

Riss:

Congrats, special, shout out, we're gonna watch that one back.

Chrys:

I was half thinking camping, half thinking jail as the same thing. So don't go to jail, kids stay in school.

Riss:

But and don't go camping. I would especially be so mad about being in jail if I was there for something I didn't do also we're trying to help or like, because what actually happened in?

Chrys:

they released the footage. He asked her for the tylenol thing. He kind of walks away. She keeps driving. She hits a shelf, her baby almost falls. The guy comes over, picks the baby up, puts it on her lap, keeps walking, goes to get his tylenol. It shows the lady two seconds later bumping into another shelf and then running over another one of her kids foot and this other guy coming over and picking that baby up and putting up on the thing to help her. Also, like what is happening? Like having kids is hard, overwhelming. Kids are crazy, sure. But like why are we running over our children with this scooter chair? Like, yeah, what is going on? Like let's get a regular cart, put your children on the thing. And like buckle them down yeah, no, yeah, very very weird.

Chrys:

It's not a playground, it's just not the place. And like there's shelves everywhere. Like what if you bump into a shelf and it falls on you?

Riss:

like I don't like know how to use it too. Like it seems like it's her first time riding around in one of those.

Chrys:

Yeah, I don't understand. You're not doing very well at it either anyway, yeah, it should all be a non-issue, truly like.

Riss:

I don't even think any of that is a problem until dot dot dot keep going.

Chrys:

Yeah wait what I got lost for a second.

Riss:

None of that is a problem, like none of that is a problem until you find out she tries to blame this guy.

Chrys:

Oh, yeah, he like, and he even comes back when he gets his tylenol. He walks past her and he's like I found it. And she's like cool, and he leaves, pays for his stuff and goes. And then she like calls the police, I guess, and then goes on the news and like is talking one of the videos she has her baby on her lap and she's like did someone try to take you away from mama? And the baby's like yeah, but like, yeah, like you're leading the witness.

Chrys:

She's like like you can do that with kids. If you turn to him and say, like are you so excited about the volcano that just erupted, he'd be like yay, like he has no idea what you're saying. Yeah, um, yeah. And yeah, says that she had a tug of war with him. And anyway, the story that we initially said completely lied about the interaction, which is like why, why are we wasting our time? Why are we wasting the police time? Why are we blaming this guy for trying to be nice? Like isn't that terrible that sometimes, like you're just trying to be the good person, like trying to be nice, trying to be helpful, and then like people turn around and just spit in your face like this. Like what, honestly, I would? That would be my origin story.

Riss:

I would like be a villain forever after that I know I would be some like you can't do a nice thing for anybody. You can't talk to people when you're out and about without somebody accusing you of something. What world do we live in?

Chrys:

I know and it's like dude, let the kid it puts into question. Right, like if you're in the grocery store, wherever, like there's a kid falling, like do you not pick them up? Like you just mind your own business.

Riss:

Like that seems like not the world I want to live in because obviously like you have to be careful and and stuff.

Chrys:

There's creeps everywhere and stuff. But if someone's just clearly helping you, I don't understand. Like I was listening to a different podcast the other day and there was a story where I don't know if it was like Am I the Asshole? Or I can't remember what the Reddit, whatever it was. But this guy was at work or or like had a work dinner or something, and this one girl started choking. So he gave her like the hamlet or whatever, and she like was, she was getting like purple. She spit it out, she was fine, he saved her life and she reported him to hr. It was in front of everyone. He didn't touch her inappropriately. He literally like it is like a physical thing that you're doing, you're getting behind the person and like slamming on their stomach, but but like the alternative would have been for her to choke and die.

Chrys:

Yeah like it was an emergency. Yeah, and everyone like applauded him like if it had been a bad thing, like I don, I don't know, Kind of a crazy thing. So she reported him. He kind of got in trouble. They were supposed to investigate it. They talked to witnesses. They were like that's not true, Like she was choking like for like a second before he like tried to help and then he stopped like inviting her to things as friends to hang out. He would only let her come if it was multiple people and whatever With reason, Because you just want to be safe. You need to protect yourself.

Chrys:

It's hard to run from accusations if you're getting them. And again, false accusations are not the rule. They're the exception most of the time, but the exception still not the rule. They're the exception most of the time, but the exception still like hurts the rule. You know, yeah, but yeah, he anyway. So then she was like yeah, like I already explained it to hr, I know they're like that's not what you're trying to do. I just have some trauma that I need to deal with, but like I feel like you're excluding me from hanging out and like you're avoiding me and it's like you can't have it both ways.

Riss:

Yeah, and yeah, yeah, it's like I mean. And if, like, if there's trauma, then yeah, like you don't know what, what is going to push that button. You know what's going to incite more, what's going to trigger that's the right word what's going gonna trigger that? Yeah, and for his own like protection, like, like, what do you do?

Chrys:

seriously, it puts him in a like a, stuck between a rock and a hard place and it's understandable, like if you have a history and for you to have certain triggers like that.

Riss:

I understand that but from his perspective it's like damned if you do, damned if you don't 100.

Chrys:

But I'm saying like she knows that, but doesn't she also know that she would? The alternative is she would have died in that situation and he was trying to save her life, like I get that maybe physically. It made her uncomfortable after the fact when she was not choking and had a chance to think about it like. I understand that, but that doesn't make it his fault yeah, no 100.

Riss:

That like weirdly makes me think of a of a new series on netflix. Have you it's? Uh, it's a doctor one, I can't remember what it's called pulse.

Chrys:

I started it. Yes, I haven't finished it. You just reminded me of that. Honestly, another one of them. Another one of them just like died off. It's like I binged it. I fell asleep.

Riss:

It doesn't exist anymore, it's it's so interesting and I feel like it's like it'll be controversial, whatever side that like you take with it. So it's like a little iffy to even get into it, yeah, but I just think it's like it's very interesting how the whole plot is. The whole premise of the thing is that like she is in love with this guy, they have like a serious relationship and she reports them to HR because of how their relationship affects their work environment. But reporting him to HR like ruins his aspirations and his career. And it's this question of like, if loved him, why did you do that?

Chrys:

but also, is it right to not report it if it is affecting your progress in your career anyway, it's that was really interesting to watch because, like, the more you watch, the more like confused it gets because it's like oh, it does seem like he's kind of like like standing in the way of you getting opportunities at work. If you don't, if you're not going along with like hanging out with him or giving him a shot, but then you do like him.

Riss:

But it's also like and there's also like and and for her, that there's like this opposite of like being with him, he has a lot of influence and being with him, he has a lot of influence and so being with him pushes her further in her career, but she doesn't feel like she. She doesn't want it, I guess, if it's not what she deserves, yeah, you know.

Riss:

So there's this like, yeah, this gray area of like Is it okay, is it not? And don't shit where you eat, don't pee in the pool, you swimming yeah, I mean it's a lesson, right, like to be really careful.

Chrys:

There's like reasons why, there's rules and like a full process. Whenever you like, get into a relationship with someone that you're in that type of situation with, like you probably should avoid that if you can. No 100.

Riss:

But I would be like curious, what like? What would? What would you do? Like not you, but like the people, our listeners, you listening at home or wherever you are, you don't have to just listen at home. Um, what, what would you do in that situation? Is that like, is that something you would report or no?

Chrys:

yeah, I guess I haven't finished. So did you finish the show? Do we like get an answer like why they broke up or how that went down? Because I guess, yeah, as far as I know, I only know that, like they were like living together, people didn't know, and then she reported him.

Riss:

I have a piece missing yeah, do you want me to tell you spoiler? I'll still watch it.

Chrys:

I like spoilers. It makes me feel safe, I know what's coming.

Riss:

I know I'm like anxious, like please well, essentially, they go to um, this retreat, um, for all the doctors, and they are talking in a room and he ends up telling her that he loves her and she gets really emotional about it and she says she loves him too. And then, um, and she says she loves him too, and then, um, it's been a while, so I don't remember like exactly, but then she gets really afraid of, like, how this is gonna affect both of their careers. Um, and they get into kind of an argument about it. That it's like an interesting argument. They get in an argument about it. She feels really she's going up for to be the resident is that what it is?

Riss:

Chief resident, chief resident next year? And it's between her and this other guy. And then, as soon as, like, they say they love each other, that kind of messes with things where she doesn't know if she's gonna get that position because of her own efforts or because of him. Yeah and oh, I know I'm butchering it because I know that there's more angles to it. It's not just like that black and white.

Chrys:

Yeah, and I know this is probably the wrong take, but like win-win, a win is a win, it's bad. Girls, take what you can get, I'm like I'm going to get this job and I have this boyfriend that loves me. Like okay, yeah, no, I know, and so, but no, I know, and so, but I get it. I mean it's like her app for like. I mean sit him down like one of you transfers, sit him down and say like, don't push for things for me. Like yeah, just like don't.

Riss:

Don't send him my way anything, but don't say anything. Yeah, um and yeah. So then they get in this argument about that, and then there's something else to do with his career and she thinks that, like that, now she has to protect him, for I don't know, but it's like it feels very I don't know.

Riss:

It's just interesting, like I almost I I felt I felt kind of bad for him because he's getting like everybody at work thinks he's like a predator or something, and yeah, what it really was was just he told her he loved her and there's again there's more, there's more that goes into it that's why I'm like yeah, but like so I'd be so curious if anybody has the perspective.

Riss:

I kind of side more with him a little bit in this whole thing. But if anybody sides more with her, I'd be curious to hear like why, why, um, and her, she has like a traumatic past where for her it's like really hard to accept that anybody loves her and so that's like triggered a little bit too, but still not a good enough reason to yeah I think I don't know what people sometimes don't understand is that hr is not for you, it's for the company, the establishment, the hospital, whatever it is.

Chrys:

It's for them, it's to protect them legally, right, that's what they're doing at the end of the day, and so like they want to try to keep you from filing a lawsuit. So I think one thing that and this kind of sucks, I guess too, because there are different situations, but I feel like if you are willing to go to hr, you have to be willing for it to be public. Right, that's what you're agreeing to. So I think in that situation, what I disagree with is like she felt wronged, which makes sense, but I think she would know, right, the impact that going to hr would have, you know. So I think you have to be willing to be public and say we were in a full-blown relationship that was consensual, yeah, but we were. You know, I was worried about us making decisions that like it's a little nuanced yeah, whatnot, maybe be straightforward about it.

Chrys:

I know that it's like putting your business out there, but at the same time, I feel like you owe that person that much, because otherwise they think that this guy like did something horrible, did something non-consensual to you. Um, right, like, I feel like you have to be willing for that. I do think that it is kind of nuanced because, like, if you were actually like sexually harassed or assaulted at work or something like, you are owed more privacy than that, yeah, but I feel like in her case, I feel like she should have been willing to be more honest, at least I. The last episode that I watched, I think, was like it coming out that they were living together because she was trying to keep it a secret, which I get. It's your life, you want to keep it private, but like I don't think it was enough to ruin each other's lives, right, yeah it was just like yeah, it was just an interesting.

Riss:

I thought it was interesting, I don't know. It was yeah. Yeah, I don't know, and this is not to say that you shouldn't go to HR and that you shouldn't like.

Chrys:

You should.

Riss:

But I'm saying like, like, seek private legal help if you can I guess, like you and you should use all your resources, but and be aware of, like if, depending on the claim that you're making, like how that's gonna affect you and the person.

Chrys:

Yeah.

Riss:

Right Again. There's plenty of situations where you probably shouldn't even care how the other person is going to be affected Like they deserve it. Yeah, but in her situation I think that she maybe owed him a little bit more. Yeah, as somebody who she loved.

Chrys:

Like, did they break up and he retaliated? No, okay, because if that had happened that would make more sense, I guess. No, I don't know.

Riss:

It's yeah complicated, it was just yeah interesting Anyway, yeah, let us know what you guys think if you watched it.

Chrys:

But again, I will say if something happens at work, seek private legal help and then go from there. I feel like that comes first Props to the hospital because they don't know what happened. I guess maybe they have parts of the story, I don't know. But in a lot of cases when women come forward and men I guess, more often women, let's be for real the woman gets let go a lot of times. Yeah, Like stats are super sad around it, Like, especially if the guy is higher up. Oh, yeah, Like they don't get rid of that guy most of the time, which I think in that situation he was her supervisor, right? Yeah, so props to them for like, like getting rid of him, I guess. But the situation maybe was more nuanced than that.

Riss:

But, yeah, well, that was depressing, you know that took a real downturn. Um what are? Some good things happening in the world I don't know sad um that note.

Chrys:

I know, let me think um. Literally, I only wrote down the scandalous things. I guess, okay, this is not good but it's, and I feel like that's good enough right now. Have you guys seen this? Like the, I forget his name now it's like Menugate on TikTok. I need to see if I can find his name, but it's going to start playing audio. I'm so sorry. No, it didn't, menugate, hey it's me that guy Cody Cody AT.

Chrys:

cody is his tiktok. Anyway, he's been living in apparent. I don't listen. Okay, I'm gonna start with this. I read some comments. Some people are like this is obviously a skit, it got me which is not hard to do.

Riss:

That's me with. Like every AI post ever. It's like a freaking polar bear sleeping on a boat with other people and I'm like, wow, beautiful Nature is amazing. The first person I showed to. It's like look at the feet Like those are polar bear feet Anyway. Sometimes it's hard to tell. I know it's hard. I'm just a feet Like those are polar bear feet Anyway.

Chrys:

Sometimes it's hard to tell. I know it's hard, I'm just a girl. Yeah, what do you want from me? No, but it's really interesting. He like I went on a deep dive at like 3 in the morning, which makes this less reliable. But he's been posting for like four years that he's living in this apartment complex that's supposedly like empty and basically how he moves into this place and some guys are putting like these Chinese menus in the doors or whatever, of every house, of every apartment in his complex, and he's walking around and he's like it's been like five days None of these doors have been opened because the Chinese menu is still in the door, Between like the door and the door frame. So he's like what is happening? So he starts filming it and he films like all over his complex and it's the same thing. And then, like he's walking around outside it's like dark, Like it's seven, whatever time, it is night time, all of the lights are off in a complex wait, I may have missed this.

Riss:

Did he just move into this complex, so this is the first few videos.

Chrys:

It started four years ago. He still lives there and it's still just like him okay. So he goes to like the parking, like there's a bunch of cars with boots on them, like they're supposed to be getting towed or whatever, but the dates on it are like a year, multiple months Like, and these cars are obviously like abandoned. A lot of them have been hit and like they don't look like they're drivable anymore. There was one that had like gunshots on the windows yeah, so like spooky one.

Chrys:

Let's pray for him. I don't know what's going on there, but they need to use this. I don't know what's happening, but isn't that crazy? And also like how could that be a skit? And then at some point someone um set off the alarm or whatever, and so he goes outside. No one comes outside, yeah. And then he gets an email from management saying that someone pulled the fire alarm and he goes around the full building recording the walls and stuff and there is no fire thing to be pulled yeah, so he's like what do you mean?

Chrys:

someone did this like there's nothing for someone to pull and then, like he starts saying that he thinks that like someone is putting props out of like trash and things, because he sees like these cans being put outside of these doors but they don't have trash in them, but the because they have trash, valet or whatever, but like his trash is not picked up yet so they haven't come, but there's no trash in these bins that are being left outside for the valet trash. Hmm, I thought it was a little spooky. I don't know, I feel like it's weird spooky.

Riss:

Sounds like a truman show, right, yeah it's crazy.

Chrys:

I don't again, I don't know if it's real. If someone knows, wait, so that's it. Oh yeah, pretty much, we don't know he's still there.

Riss:

He's just living there. Nobody else lives there, and he only started noticing this recently.

Chrys:

No, he's been posting about it for four years and he still lives there.

Riss:

Yeah, this is the kind of like horror movie kind of thing that you're like dude leave.

Chrys:

You know why he hasn't left? Because he's a boy.

Riss:

Oh, I was going to say because he's probably making money on TikTok.

Chrys:

That too. But at some point wouldn't you just like get a better place, Find a new story?

Riss:

Yeah, so interesting, I know.

Chrys:

Huh, this reminds me of another one too. This was a while ago, but there was this girl. Did you ever see the Listen? This is I have insomnia, so sometimes I don't sleep and I spend time on TikTok. So don't judge me, but a few years ago or a few months ago, I can't remember, I have the opposite of insomnia.

Riss:

I sleep too much. I need that.

Chrys:

I slept like four hours straight the other night and I woke up like, wow, that hasn't happened in a long time. Wow, really, yeah, four hours Like not in, like a stretch.

Riss:

Hmm, if I slept only four hours I would not be able to work. Like would be broken.

Chrys:

yeah, that day, I mean, I feel broken, like unless I take like nyquil or something or like in some events, I can't just do it naturally like interesting, I don't know why, um, but yeah, there's this girl who posted this thing on tiktok a while back where, like she was building, like I think she had just moved into this house but she was building a fence around her house, and they started digging to put down the fence and they like found a rolled up rug, and so she filmed it and like posted it on TikTok. Like isn't this so weird? Like it was pretty deep and it was rolled up and everyone was like, put the shovel down and call the police, there's probably a body. Oh whoa, I just saw your face change completely.

Riss:

It didn't even cross my mind. I was like why? What was the tea?

Chrys:

People must really like old rugs. Yeah, yeah, I was like, why are people wearing?

Riss:

rugs every movie ever, I know well, now it clicked.

Chrys:

Yeah, it makes sense yeah, call the police, girlfriend. I know I probably would have thought of it immediately either. I only did because I had already seen the comments, but I was like anyway, so there was this whole thing, like it was also really weird because she did call the police and they brought out, like I don't know, like excavators came and like the csi people and the fbi, like all these people came and she, like was recording most of it, which she may or may not have been allowed to do, I don't know. But now, like up close, she had to stay in her house, um, but she was filming from like outside what was happening, like she was live for a good portion of the day or something.

Chrys:

And the weird thing is that they brought out the dogs at first to like see if there was a reason to even dig, and I forget what it's called like when the dog like find something, it's like they sniffed it out. No, it something. It's like they Sniffed it out. No, it's like. It's like they there's like a word for it it's like they go to the spot and they sit or something. They usually do that when like they spot whatever. There's a name, I don't know what it is, but they like basically made it so like they had determined that there was a body.

Chrys:

Yeah, and so that's when they brought out all the big guns and they were like out there forever and like moving around dirt, like they like destroyed her back um, backyard, pretty much. They like put most of it, it like together ish after, but it was pretty much like just dirt everywhere, and they told her that they didn't find a body, but they took a bunch of like it seemed like they took the rug and a bunch of stuff. Aliens, what Anyway? Anyway, not aliens, I mean maybe aliens, I don't know.

Riss:

Well, I don't know, are they covering something up, something that she shouldn't know about? I think they definitely covered it up.

Chrys:

I think know about. I think they definitely covered it up. I think they found a body because would they tell her be like, oh yeah, update your tiktok people, like it would probably hurt their case? I would think, right, they would have to. I feel like they would tell her, would they?

Riss:

I feel like that would be like. The normal procedure would be that like, yeah, we found a body, and then I don't, I don't know because what if?

Chrys:

because she was live on t, on TikTok and obviously like posting about it. I feel like, if they have to do an investigation and find out whose body it was to close a current case, well, maybe with a TikTok thing. I don't know if they would, maybe they would, I don't know. I just assume everyone's lying to me it's more mysterious.

Riss:

Well, but no, okay. So I guess what I'm saying is like I feel like they would tell her. I feel like that would be the normal thing in any other situation. Is that they would tell the person, yeah, but something sketchy feels like is going on right a little bit.

Chrys:

Or like what if they suspected her, would they? They're allowed to lie.

Riss:

That's the thing, right like they're legally allowed to lie and if it's like, if it's not a body, then what?

Chrys:

was it, I don't know why would the dogs have found?

Riss:

anything, and was she not watching at all times?

Chrys:

it's kind of hard to explain because I watched some of the live. Basically, like they told her that she couldn't leave her house and she had like the like a back sliding door and her backyard was pretty big and so they were just out there. They had like stuff like all around like covering the area that they were gonna dig and whatever. They had a bunch of people, a bunch of vehicles and whatever, and so they only let her out there once. They kind of put most things back and took the rug and whatever. And so they only let her out there once. They kind of put most things back and took the rug and whatever evidence that they needed, like why would you take the rug if there's nothing to it? Maybe, maybe they look, maybe it was a conspiracy theory or there, but maybe it's just that they need to log what happened or whatever.

Chrys:

But I would think that they found something yeah like, or maybe it was just like, I don't know. I guess maybe they found drugs rolled up it. They were trying to make a giant joint, I don't know. Like, why would the dog sit, or whatever? Why would it like alert that there's something? If there isn't anything, it could have been an animal, I guess, wouldn't it?

Riss:

Alright, they gave up One of our lights just turned off.

Chrys:

We don't know why. So it's Lolly's turn to talk while I fix it.

Riss:

Yeah, no, Very weird it was that it Was that like is that the end of the story?

Chrys:

They just like I want to stop telling you stories. You keep saying is that it?

Riss:

I mean like I got really excited about it. Okay, well, I mean mean just like when I ask is that it? It's like did? Did she do any more digging? Is there anything?

Chrys:

I do have a follow-up. What happened was she got a bunch of followers from it. Someone hacked her account and took all her money. Oh, from the views that she got. Oh, that's sad. Yeah, that's the only development I know. That's upsetting. We can reach out and say, hey, what happened with the wreck? Maybe she'll come on, we'll have her on. Yeah, it's like, tell us more yeah and tell us what's your? Confession. It's like did you kill him? Like, is that a body that you know you're responsible for?

Chrys:

yeah, maybe she's I haven't seen anything else pop up of hers.

Riss:

These are the questions we need answered. Yeah, but yeah, that's another episode. Thanks for joining us. Yeah, if you like our content, follow us on TikTok at TheRealTSBU, follow us on any podcast platform we're on all of them and YouTube under the Stays Between Us. Yeah, spill the tea, sip the secrets and shut the hell up about it.

Chrys:

And don't forget the Stays Between Us. See ya so aggressive. And don't forget the stays between us. See ya so aggressive like.

Riss:

There's no way to make that sound like cute.

Chrys:

I think this is because the computer shut off.

Riss:

Oh yes, that makes sense. That's fine. Yeah, and we were at an hour.