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Just Between Us… Adopting a 30-Year-Old, Space Tourism Fails, and Book Club Drama

• Riss & Chrys • Season 1 • Episode 17

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Chrys and Riss discuss their reactions to celebrity space tourism, analyzing how out of touch the whole spectacle appears when astronauts are actually stuck in space for months with minimal attention.

• Blue Origin space flight with celebrities cost approximately $28 million per person for just 11 minutes in space
• Katie Perry sang "What a Wonderful World" during the brief journey, making the experience even more theatrical
• The celebrities' dramatic reactions and claims of profound transformation sparked widespread mockery online
• Chris and Riss explore "The Good American Family" movie controversy about an adoption gone wrong
• Brett Fairly's viral paternity scam story reveals how he was manipulated into paying child support for a baby that wasn't his
• The hosts reflect on everyday awkward interactions and the energy required to confront uncomfortable situations

Join us next week as we start our book club discussion on "The Seven Husbands of Evelyn Hugo"!


Chrys:

hello, welcome to another episode of the stays between us. This is chris and this is riss um we just talked about, the house made for like an hour and none of it recorded so like, and it was a really good one too.

Riss:

It was a pretty good one, but honestly, I don't think we have it in us to talk about it again.

Riss:

Maybe we do it next week or something and give you our thoughts on part two and three yeah, but just so everybody knows if you're interested in following along in the book club next week we are going to start, um, or I guess we're going to start this week the seven wives, the seven husbands, seven husbands of evelyn, seven hoes, or whatever it is, the roster of evelyn hugo honestly that's a better name um seven husbands of evelyn hugo. Uh, we're gonna start reading it. We're gonna go about halfway, yeah, so tune in next time for that.

Chrys:

And then, yeah, um, I really want to talk about the whole. Like, what is it called? Blue point, like go into space, blue orbit, whatever it's called, I don't know. The celebrities go into space this week, lol.

Chrys:

Maybe that's all I had to say on that learning the name of whatever it is that went in his face would have probably taken longer than they were actually out there for dude, did you watch the video where, like they open the door and then someone comes to the door and they're like, close it and like faces, like face plants, and then grabs a freaking like crowbar or whatever to go and open it?

Riss:

they make it like super theatrical thing.

Chrys:

This is, and that door opened like a, like a freaking, like playground door it looked like one of those bar like open. It was like open the whole time the cowboy revolving door. It was so like clumsy or whatever. Whatever the word is.

Riss:

Climsy.

Chrys:

Yeah.

Riss:

Whatever the word is yeah, no, it was bad. It was bad. This was like the pick me of, like any celebrity stunt ever.

Chrys:

I feel so connected to love now that I've gone to space and, like now, I know empathy or whatever the hell she said, girl what?

Riss:

the way she stepped out and kissed the ground like they had been gone for months and she's like I forgot what this felt like.

Chrys:

Oh my gosh it's so funny I have not seen a single like.

Riss:

I have not seen a single person whether it's like videos, news reports or even like comments on things supporting this at all. Everybody's just like this is pathetic this is pathetic. What is going on?

Chrys:

and like them, calling themselves astronauts is like girl, what like, and she's like this wasn't a ride, this was a journey the whole thing is giving like uh rachel from friends exactly I commented that on like five videos. Went to the zoo yesterday. Now I'm a koala bear, Because it's so that it's like it's insane. It's like I watched a season of Grey's Anatomy. I'm going to perform, yeah, I'm going to pump a heart with my hand.

Riss:

Like what? No, and you know their astronaut suits. The designer.

Chrys:

The slutty jumpsuit.

Riss:

Yeah, the designer was like looking like wanting to make it look sexy.

Chrys:

Yeah. And it's like is the zipper gonna go down?

Riss:

yeah, it's like wow, the sexy astronauts. Katie perry saying we're gonna put the ass in astronauts oh, I didn't even see that women in stem. We love them.

Chrys:

I feel like listen a few thoughts. I mean out of touch. These people don't even live in reality, right, they don't even know. It's so funny to me, like I don't know. They like you don't know. Like love until you launch or whatever she said, like just the craziest she is ever. They just spent millions of dollars while like regular people are working like 60 hour weeks and like barely able to afford groceries. But it's like, can't you just like I know it's kind of obvious if an like a freaking rocket or whatever is launching, but like do it in secret? Like go look, I mean if I had the money to go into space, I probably would, let's maybe be real. But like I wouldn't go. Like go look, I mean if I had the money to go into space, I probably would, let's maybe be real. But like I wouldn't go on the internet and be like praise me, minions, tonight we take the moon, whatever.

Riss:

Like no, I like like they just changed history, or like they're calling it her story right like the whole and it's like you did nothing for women anywhere, like if this had been a group of like astronaut women who went to school, dedicated their lives to this. Sure, the only thing they did was like put on a sexy little costume spend like 28 million dollars each and get in a container and pray that it worked for 11 minutes.

Chrys:

Is that how long they were up there? Yeah, no, it's like. Is that even long enough for anything? It's like you, mike, I microwaved a sandwich in the time that you were in space. Like it's so pathetic. Like also, no, absolutely. You would think that for a 2828 million ticket you would get like at least 30 minutes.

Riss:

No, for real. It is like kind of a slap in the face to like the women who really do like work so hard on like stuff like that happening.

Chrys:

Yeah.

Riss:

And they don't get any recognition. But this is taking over Well, I guess it's taking over the internet, because it's a joke, but and it's also them winning credit for like operating the rocket and being like a national.

Chrys:

It's like I get on a plane to fly from one point a to point b.

Riss:

I'm not a pilot I'm not about to be like. Please, like, shake my hand and tell me it's like I'm ready to.

Chrys:

Yeah, it's insane, it's just like so it's out of touch, but it's also delusional on a level. That's just crazy.

Riss:

I know, and it's so funny that like just the contrast between that and what happened not so long ago, like very still recent news, where, like the two astronauts were actually stuck in space for like eight, nine months. How long was it and that didn't even get that much publicity or attention yeah, and but like it, yeah, it's just hilarious how, like I don't know, they're acting like especially, I can't get over the kissing the ground thing like she's been gone.

Chrys:

We're not taking space, we're making space. Whatever it was it's like, please shut up. Like write a cheesy song and release that but like don't come out here oh my gosh and the whole like singing um, they sang I missed this katie perry sang, and what song did she sing In the? Rocket Wonderful World. I mean, that's all she had time to do was sing one song. I don't think she even has the chorus.

Riss:

Before they landed, she's like oh yeah, okay, we're done. Bye guys.

Chrys:

They released this.

Riss:

They recorded this.

Chrys:

Yeah, yeah, it was one of the women.

Riss:

I can't, honestly. I'll be. I'll be so for real. I know it was katie perry and I know it was jeff besos wife, or fiance, and then like gail, she's like a tv host.

Riss:

Don't know any of the other women, but one of the women were was talking about how, like the most beautiful moment of when they were all up there was when kate perry just started singing. What a wonderful world and she was just in awe of just in awe of this amazing experience that these us women were able to be together for. Like this whole thing, that was just like oh my gosh. And then there's this whole thing about how, like I think I'm pretty sure katie perry said she's like I don't, I didn't want the moment to be about me, so I didn't want to sing any of my songs.

Chrys:

I really wanted but I was gonna sing.

Riss:

No one had a choice in that yeah, like nobody asked for it, but I wanted to give them like a beautiful song and I'm so selfless.

Chrys:

It wasn't gonna be one of my songs.

Riss:

Yeah, it's just like this definitely like was never about me. That's why I didn't pick like one of my songs meanwhile, you have to say that like holding her like playlist for like her next tour.

Chrys:

It's like this I'm not singing about it, but uh, get the hint I just imagine her like finishing her song and they have like 20 seconds left in space and she's like please subscribe to my youtube instagram, I'll be out on tour here and here during those dates.

Riss:

Her plug before they come back. I can like she's singing and just there's just like one person clapping like in there because everybody's like wait, where did this come from?

Chrys:

oh, and they're like we should have discussed an etiquette for this I can only imagine it's like 11 minutes with women who don't know each other.

Riss:

I yeah, they're just like up in space.

Chrys:

They're like we just want to like, admire and listen to the universe for a second, and then katie's like and all the people, or whatever she's saying they don't know her well enough to tell her to shut up, so they're just wasting their millions of dollars. They're just like somebody. Make this bitch shut up. Everyone, put your hats on.

Riss:

Let's let her out I am actually so excited to be to see the snl skits about this or like any like. I'm sure, like all the media, like tv shows will make that's hilarious it's just so good.

Chrys:

Yeah, I just imagine. I mean, how funny would it be for us get to be like they're up there and, yeah, she starts singing, and they're like I'm just gonna open the door for all of us. I think. I think we should end it right here.

Riss:

Maybe that's why it was only 11 minutes, like okay, can we go back down?

Chrys:

just arguing I'm gonna open the door, stop singing. They're like, okay, we can we go back down. They're just arguing I'm going to open the door, stop singing. They're like, okay, we have to come back down. We have to stop this bus, rearrange the seating. That's hilarious. Yeah, the whole thing was pathetic. And then Gail, like the lady who was like the host, she got interviewed about it and she's like have you been to space? And people are like no, but it was still pathetic, we can comment on stuff you can barely say you went to space for one and two.

Chrys:

It's like you want to be relatable but then you're telling people to shut up like don't have an opinion about it.

Riss:

Applaud me or no? It's like I had a layover in the d airport. Can I say I went to Texas?

Chrys:

Seriously. I had a layover in Lima on my way from Brazil. Now I'm Peruvian, it's my country. Now I claimed it. Crazy, so so funny.

Riss:

And the other thing that I was actually really curious to talk to you about. Have you heard of, like, the good american family?

Chrys:

no, it's this movie that pretty sure wait based on like a true story is this with um dr gray from gray's anatomy? Yes, okay, I've seen commercials for it, so I know what it's about yeah.

Riss:

So it's like this girl, this family adopts this girl and this girl is like goes like crazy on them and then the mom's like like suspicious, she's like this little girl's like getting her period and stuff and she's like trying to kill them. I don't know yeah all these details and then the mom's like, okay, there's no way they adopted her from like russia, I want to say, or some like yeah foreign country anyway.

Riss:

And then the mom is like no way this girl is a child the way she claims to be, like she's not seven or whatever. Yeah, uh, whatever age she had said, um, and so they go through like the courts to prove that she's like an adult and she, and then they end up like managing to like prove, uh, get her age changed and she become like she actually is an adult but not in the real version.

Chrys:

Right in the real version they found out that she was a child. Yeah, so.

Riss:

So that's the story that has been like how it has stood for so long.

Riss:

I actually remember hearing about this like years ago yeah um and like how freaking scary is that you like adopt a kid and then you find out it's like actually an adult woman trying to kill your whole family like that's terrifying nuts but then so then this whole debate like kind of generated, where it's like because she came out and she's like no, I was actually a kid at that time yeah, and they put her in an apartment or something, living by herself or something right, and then they fled the country yeah and and she's like no, I like I was for, like I was a kid and, um, she's like an adult now, but she's like I was a kid and they like just couldn't, didn't want me anymore, or whatever.

Riss:

And then other people are like, okay, yeah, but you still try to kill them. Like what the heck? Yeah, and there's like this whole thing of like was she a kid or wasn't she a kid? And it's like, yeah, this crazy debate.

Riss:

But I know I was on like I had read about this story so long ago that like when I saw this like that it had become a movie and all this stuff I was definitely on the family side of like no, she, like there's so much evidence that this girl was actually an adult, yeah. And then I saw one interview with the dad and you have to see it, I like, I, I will, I. Okay, I'm gonna react to it on TikTok Like I'll share it on our page so that anybody listening can see it. There there are no words.

Riss:

This man is he's got some marbles missing, like he's got some wires, definitely. Wait, what does that mean? I can't even explain it. I don't even know. Like I don't even know, like I don't even know what I saw, like I'm still at like a loss for words. I'm like he so well, like kind of this is the thing it's, like it's really it's sad, and so I feel like it needs like a little. Like it's a sad situation, regardless, right, whether she's an adult or a child, like it's. Everything is just kind of messed up. This whole family is like you can't really go back from that, right.

Chrys:

Yeah.

Riss:

This whole situation is kind of messed up. But he starts he's like describing how he found he walked in one day and found his wife, um, disciplining the kid, and he was he just like kind of went like crazy, demonstrating it, and he's like she was beating her up like, but not just like she, she. And then he like he gets off of the like interview and he's like this is how it went. And then he just gets up and gets on the floor and he starts smacking the floor as hard as he can and he's just going at it for so, so long and then his hand he was. It was scary to watch. It sounds terrible, I know. Like I was like oh my gosh.

Chrys:

So the family sucks. He is. He's describing a murder.

Riss:

Yeah, like first the fact the wife was doing that.

Chrys:

Second, the fact that he would like fully display it like weird.

Riss:

A hundred percent in this interview, no, and his whole like demeanor was just very interesting.

Chrys:

Did they pay someone to make a show to make him look better?

Riss:

I don't know. Probably I know very little about the situation I'm sure, like I'm sure, it's told a lot more from their point of view than her point of view, so it's probably more.

Chrys:

She's disabled right, or she has something she does have yeah, she's got like.

Riss:

I don't know if it's like a form of dwarfism or what it is, but she does have like a okay, like um, yeah, whatever.

Chrys:

I don't know what you would call it, but yeah, no, so I think that she would have more of a platform because of that. Like yeah, yeah, because if she, because I thought she like couldn't walk and she had like some physical thing.

Riss:

No, she can walk.

Chrys:

Oh, okay.

Riss:

She. She does look like she could be older than what she says, but that's also up for debate. A lot of people think she looks like she's seven when she says she's seven, so to me she looks like she could be older, but interesting anyway scary.

Chrys:

I know this is nothing to do with it, but it made me think about it. Did you ever watch the movie changeling with, um, angelina jolie? No, it's like about a true story in that happened in california, I think, in like the 30s I can't remember, don't quote me on that, I can't remember exactly what year, but, um, it's not the same thing at all, but like just a little bit of a scary parenting situation, I guess. But this woman's son gets kidnapped and she's trying to get him back. She's like going after the police trying to get him to solve the case and like they just are not like doing enough about it.

Chrys:

So she goes, tries to get like the press involved and then they finally get to a point after like months, say that they found the kid and they go to return it, return the kid to her, and they do it like publicly.

Chrys:

So they take a picture in the moment and she's like this isn't my kid and they're like yes, it is, this is your child, take him home. Like this is your kid him home. Like this is your kid, like he's been through trauma or whatever, so he might look a little bit different, and she's like it's not him. So she takes him home and like she has like um marks on the wall of like his height or whatever throughout the years, and like this kid is like much shorter. And then she like goes to like give him a bath and like this kid is like circumcised and her kid wasn't, and she's like this isn't my kid. So they put her in a mental institution, like they lock her up because they say like you're crazy, this happened, it's insane people get into mental institutions way too easily and too hard to get out.

Chrys:

I think, especially back then, because they were like they basically like she couldn't leave, she like so stuck there for a long time and then like who? Who put her in there? Like the police. They basically said that like she went insane after she lost her kid and she wasn't accepting the fact that this was her kid, that they returned to her. It's a really interesting movie. It's pretty crazy.

Chrys:

Um, it ends up being that, like they end up finding out that her kid got kidnapped by this like serial killer that was out at the time and he killed, like little kids between like those like seven and nine I don't know that age and they find out that the her kid had died in that farm and the kid that they returned really wasn't him. Um, I can't remember why, but like someone convinced the kid to lie and pretend to be her child. I don't know if there was a reward or something. I can't remember, but it's a really crazy story. But can you imagine they're like this is your child and you're like, no, it's not, like this is a different child, and then the police locks you up. It's like um yeah, what no?

Riss:

and?

Chrys:

it's crazy.

Riss:

Yeah.

Chrys:

You should watch it. It's insane.

Riss:

That actually sounds very interesting to me, yeah.

Chrys:

Insane what else happened on TikTok this week.

Riss:

I honestly think that those are pretty big things.

Chrys:

That's enough. Um, there's also that brett whatever, I don't remember his name. Brett brett, whatever, I'm following him, I don't remember his name. But the guy who got bamboozled by his not baby mama. Um, you guys should check it out because it's crazy, yeah it's that whole series with brett fairly fairly.

Chrys:

Yeah, crazy, he gets approached by this lady he's hooked up with a few times. And crazy and gets approached by this lady he's hooked up with a few times and she's like wanting to do IVF and be a mom and asks him to be a sperm donor. He stupidly says yes. She kind of reaches out to his family and, like, gets his family involved and saying she doesn't have anybody and she needs a support system. He ends up signing the birth certificate and paying child support for a while and it looks like that was not his kid and she she got a ton of money out of him and like yeah, he's support and all that stuff yeah, I think he like said that it totaled like 52 000 or something in the last few years.

Chrys:

I think this started in like 2021 or something.

Riss:

And she managed to make like a ton of people like think he was a horrible person because yeah. Saying that he wasn't paying alimony and whatever.

Chrys:

Not alimony, child support, child support. But he had screenshots they went after like his girlfriend, so crazy Saying lies about her.

Riss:

Saying that she lost custody of her kids, and none of it was true. And you know, it's like you see movies with plots like that and you like you just don't think it happens in real life. But oh my gosh, how it does you know like there's even crazier stuff unwell.

Chrys:

Do you have to be like that poor? Honestly, like the only person that loses is that baby. Yeah, that poor kid like got attached to someone that ended up not being the father. She probably won't get to see him again. The mom is unwell. I don't know what the rest of the situation looks like, but yeah, it's sad, but anyway, that was depressing. Sorry, but it's yeah, no it is it's, it's just.

Riss:

It's. To me, it's just crazy to see, like, how people are so manipulative and I, I always like, I'm always like I'll watch movies where, like there's a mastermind behind something that made all of this happen, and I'm just like my first thought is, like that's like wouldn't happen in real life, because, like, who can really orchestrate something like that?

Riss:

yeah apparently I'm just stupid because a lot of people can't happens. All the time I feel like I'm just like so incapable of it, and not because, like that's a good thing. Well, I'm not even saying that in like a, like a virtuous way, that I'm not capable of something bad. I'm just not capable of like. It's like how do you orchestrating it? I'm like, how do you keep track of all that?

Riss:

I know I like so many lies and like so many people that you have to like. In order to make this happen, you need to make like 20 other things happen yeah, and create a paper trail.

Chrys:

I guess honestly, I I see this type of stuff and I'm like aren't you guys like tired, I don't know? I feel like it's like you go to work, you have like between laundry and doing the dishes and like planning a meal every single day for the rest of your life, like isn't there enough stuff going on? Like why are we like to message someone and harass someone and then create a situation and then go online and involve other people and this madness? It's like maybe get a part-time job, you would have made more money in three years.

Riss:

How much do you have to hate your nine to five to like go to this extent? You know.

Chrys:

I yeah, and like $52,000 is a lot of money, but to look at it as something that she made over the course of like four years, a part-time job would have gotten her more money.

Riss:

Was it only $52,000?

Chrys:

I thought that's what he said and it was like I was like, oh, okay it might have been more, but even still, it's like, yeah, I don't know. It's like just it sounds like less work to like start a side hustle like maybe doordash, listen to something in the car, some music, you could probably do it with your kid in the car with you, like you don't even need to pay for like daycare. I don't know, I just it's just, it's entertaining. But yeah, I just had a weird. I missed it.

Riss:

I'm sad, I missed it I will anyway, yeah, no, seriously, people have too much time on their hands.

Chrys:

And energy. It's like I don't know. I just I don't know. I think I don't know. I guess I just become more antisocial because I'm like, with everything that I have going on it's like I don't want to talk to anybody. How do you have the energy to go scam someone and like you had a full baby and then like I don't know?

Riss:

no, for real. Sometimes I won't even correct, like the receipt that is clearly showing that I have to pay more just because I, like, want to leave, you know like fine, I'll pay an extra ten dollars, I don't care, I just want to go you know I bought a.

Chrys:

I was gonna go get a haircut and there was this new like smoothie place right next door. So I went into it and I was talking to this lady. She was so nice. I bought like a protein shake from her. I got out of the store and I sipped on it and it was like drinking sand. It was so bad and just nasty. And I went into the hair salon and I was like do you guys have a garbage? I need to throw this out. And they're like, oh, did you get that next door? Go over there, she'll change it for you. And I'm like she was so nice, I don't, I'm not going over there.

Chrys:

I'm not like I'd rather die on these three dollars than, like have an interaction about it at all like to sit, to go back into the store and just stand there for another like three minutes for her to make me a new smoothie. Like well to stand in line too, like there's like five people, there was no line for a reason, as it turns out, but it would have been me and her, me just staring at her as she's doing this thing and I'm like, yeah, it wasn't good, like I can't know that as soon as you walk in, she's gonna be like oh, you liked it.

Chrys:

Yeah, it's like no version two is gonna be sand with spit on it, so I'd just rather cut that. You know, just go about my day. But it was funny. The lady was like no, just she didn't, like didn't want to let me throw it away because it was behind the counter like the garbage and I'm like please throw it away. This interaction is also ruining my day.

Riss:

I don't want to talk I've just been like well, actually, I bought it for you, no, it sucks, sorry.

Chrys:

Anyway.

Riss:

Yeah, hilarious my gosh yeah, well, this has been. Another episode of this day is between us. Uh, please follow, like, subscribe, comment, interact with us. We like to know what you guys are thinking, if you like the podcast, if there's something you guys want to I want us to talk about, or if you want to contribute to something we've said, we love reading it and we'd be happy to talk about it on our next episode. So please interact with our stuff please do yeah, we're on tiktok at the real tsbu.

Riss:

Um, I always have to check out in my mind, is that right?

Chrys:

acronyms are hard.

Riss:

And on YouTube and all podcast platforms.

Chrys:

Yeah Well, thank you, we'll see you next time. Bye.